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I read a random post in a poly group that really inspired me to start typing. The author of the post mentioned how so many people are posting about breakups and heart aches. They sighted how monogamy wasn’t really that hard for them and poly seemed pretty difficult and still people found themselves alone or lonely. Ultimately the poster jokingly asked if any of us thought about just taking a break from poly. With that, I found myself typing a 3 hour reply that I ultimately decided to turn into this blog post. This is why I love and choose poly even when times are difficult…

I will never go back to monogamy. Here’s why.

Poly threw me into the deep end with learning how to face all my self-worth issues; learning how to speak and hold boundaries; and learning all the codependent patterns that I was perpetuating in myself and seeking out again and again in the partners I was attracted to. Multiple partners is a huge catalyst that helps me discover patterns in myself that I need to be addressed. For that, I love poly.

Poly pushed me into learning how to really checkin with myself about my own feelings and needs, then how to communicate my own feelings and needs as well as how to receive everyone else’s feelings and needs. And how to do it all with grace and love. Multiple partners is a huge catalyst that shows me how different people I’m intimate with communicate with me and how different lovers receive my communications. For that, I love poly.

Poly taught me the difference between patterns that perpetuate conflicts vs how every “conflict” is really just an opportunity to have a new conversation that will result in understanding and honoring each other at a deeper level. Again, multiple partners, leads to a lot of practice and growth. For that, I love poly.

Poly threw me into jealousy and jealousy forced me to learn how to stop and listen to this emotion and realize all the things I was missing, had to heal, and had to communicate about me. I no longer view jealousy as “bad”. Rather, I view jealousy as an emotion that is trying to clue me into something much like pain, hunger, and fatigue are trying to alert us to something. Jealousy has become my canary in the coal mine; a little buddy that I’m so thankful for because a chirp of jealousy let’s me know I’ve got something I’m not being honest with myself about and probably not asking for. Jealousy also taught me to listen carefully for the response and actions of the person I’m communicating my needs to because sometimes jealousy is alerting me to someone disregarding my needs as a pattern of neglect. It may be an accidental pattern or an intentional pattern, but it’s a pattern. Sometimes the chirp of jealousy is not about me discovering and communicating my needs at all. Sometimes jealousy is about acknowledging to myself that this person is not the right match for me and I should let them be them and not attempt to change them to fit my expectations. Instead, I can simply accept and love them for who they are. I can accept our differences, where their journey is taking them, and where they are on that journey. Then I can talk to them about it and start taking steps to transition our relationship back to a friendship or to no future interaction at all. Not needing to make my only relationship last and being able to let people be who they are is another reason I love poly.

Poly taught me the difference between my toxic partners and my dream partners. My dream partners are people who are human, make mistakes, have the best of intentions, are self-aware, emotionally mature, take responsibility for their actions, and have earned my patience, love, grace, trust, and understanding regardless of what might go wrong or the situation we find ourselves in. Toxic partners, for me, are people who are human, make mistakes, are not self-aware or emotionally mature, are primarily concerned with themselves, look to blame others, dodge responsibility, can’t/won’t talk through conflicts, focus on who’s right and who’s wrong in conflict, look to punish those they deem “wrong”, don’t care who they hurt, take revenge (aka hurt people on purpose), and will intentionally use my patience, love, grace, trust, and understanding to get what they want while making their current tantrum someone else’s fault. This was a radical discovery for me and my life because it involved really facing my own people pleasing patterns that had me volunteering to bend for people who were literally just using me. I was volunteering for a life of sacrifice and compromise just to stay in a relationship with someone because I loved them. Yet, no amount of sacrifice was ever going to be enough.

Poly taught me relationships do not need to be built on sacrifice and compromise. Relationships can be built on effectively communicating everyone’s wants & needs, then working together to ensure everyone’s wants & needs are met. That is the opposite of compromise. Compromise involves one or more people sacrificing the idea of getting their wants & needs fully met so we can all embrace getting some percentage of our wants & needs met instead. I now know, once everyone’s needs are voiced and understood, we can look for a third option that allows everyone to get exactly what they want & need. I also recognize that effectively communicating my wants & needs as well as clearly receive other people’s requests to get their wants & needs met will be a skill that will take a lifetime of intentional practice. Thankfully, poly will give me plenty of opportunities to practice. 😉

Poly taught me I’m allowed to have it all and I don’t need you to be my everything and I don’t need to be your everything. The most obvious place to see this is in the bedroom. No two connections are the same. The lover I’m soft and gentle with may not be the lover I get rowdy with. I clearly have a need for gentle and a separate need for rough. I get to enjoy exploring these needs with people who love to do the same thing. There is never a reason to turn to the rowdy lover and beg them to be gentle every now and then because they are my only lover. Instead, we get to enjoy exactly what our connection does best and we each get to go seek out other wonderful people who overlap with our specific needs in the bedroom and in every other facet of our lives. There are so many examples of this. I never have to ask my partner who doesn’t love snowboarding to go snowboarding. I never have to ask my partner who doesn’t like dancing to go dancing. There is always someone who is an enthusiastic “yes,” while everyone else is an enthusiastic “go play with them and have fun!”. Now substitute snowboarding vs dancing with paddles vs feathers or wrestling vs cuddling or privacy vs exhibitionism. How about someone to collaborate on a future vs someone to spontaneous go on a road trip with. I can have it all because all my connections want me to have it all and the right partner will surface for the right thing to connect on.

Poly allowed me to process through jealousy and experience compersion; and I’ll never go back. Poly taught me that there is more love out there than I ever thought possible and that I’m allowed to receive all of that love. Poly taught me I don’t have to sacrifice or compromise a connection with a specific person in order to receive a connection from another specific person and if anyone is asking me to do this, then they are not for me. Love is not a limited resource. Love pours out of my from an infinite supply and each of the lovely people in my life pour love on me from their infinite supply. I see poly as an abundance mindset when it comes to love and when I live it, I am engulfed in a flood of love from others and I am also a never ending fountain of love for others. As such, seeing two other people experiencing each other allows me to swell with joy and excitement for all the unique things their connection will bring them. I want them each to have it all; all of life and all the love. This is how if feels when I experience compersion for others. At the same time, having partners flood me with joy, excitement, reassurance, and encouragement for my connection with someone else is absolutely mind blowing. Being on the receiving end of compersion is one of the best things I’ve ever felt. Giving and receiving compersion is a big reason why I will never go back to monogamy.

Most of all, poly surrounded me with community and role models who demonstrated all the things I didn’t know I needed to learn. People who pointed me in the right direction; to the right books; or to keywords to search on. People who stood by me while I took my lumps and learned my lessons the hard way; and there were a lot of lessons.

 

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Community, Families, & Kids with Sir Drgn & Sassy https://kinkypolyatheist.com/community-families-kids-with-sir-drgn-sassy/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/community-families-kids-with-sir-drgn-sassy/#respond Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:26:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=1128
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00:45 – Poly Community Size & Post-Breakup Actions
01:35 – Support when disagreeing with other partners
02:01 – Community Support & Feedback
04:31 – You CAN still Cheat in Poly
05:41 – We have groups to help figure out…
06:16 – Vegas Poly Discussion Facebook Group
06:27 – Sassy’s Book Club in Vegas
07:28 – Poly and Raising Kids
08:26 – We use the terminology the adults use
10:20 – It’s Not a Secret
12:22 – From “Polycule” to “Family”
13:57 – Kids with Multiple Moms

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Navigate Having Multiple Partners with Sir Drgn & Sassy https://kinkypolyatheist.com/navigate-having-multiple-partners-with-sir-drgn-sassy/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/navigate-having-multiple-partners-with-sir-drgn-sassy/#respond Fri, 22 Jan 2021 15:13:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=1115
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00:40 – How many partners do you have & how do you make it work?
01:47 – We’re Friends With Our Metas
03:30 – Our Agreement About Meeting New Partners
04:36 – Feedback On Each Other’s New Partners
07:13 – Veto Power?
08:24 – Rose Colored Glasses
09:50 – Hedonist & Compersion
11:16 – “We don’t go to bed alone.”
12:27 – What do you do when the other person is on a date?
14:04 – A small DS agreement detail: “I’m his memory.”
16:27 – Comparison & Jealousy
18:44 – What’s your type?
19:48 – “Do you like Apples?”
21:35 – Monogamy Compared to Poly (NOT verses Poly)
24:05 – Multiple Partners: Communication & Feedback
27:26 – What’s Danny & Sassy’s Relationship Status?

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Poly Relationship Styles with Sir Drgn & Sassy https://kinkypolyatheist.com/poly-relationship-styles-with-sir-drgn-sassy/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/poly-relationship-styles-with-sir-drgn-sassy/#respond Fri, 22 Jan 2021 14:13:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=1114
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00:46 – Decorating the house with so many people in it
02:31 – DS Dynamic as Nesting Partners
03:35 – What’s your poly relationship style or dynamic?
04:55 – Poly Anarchy
05:37 – What does “primary” mean to you?
08:12 – Poly Anarchy vs Solo Poly?
09:55 – “littles?”
11:02 – Personal Evolution & Relationship Exit Strategies
16:48 – Joint Bank Account
17:55 – Poly People Talk About EVERYTHING
19:04 – Who I’m willing to argue with…
21:34 – Managing Expectations
23:49 – What’s your type?
24:53 – I have a crush on everybody!
26:03 – We build connection in opposite ways

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Poly Kinky Dating with Sir Drgn & Sassy https://kinkypolyatheist.com/poly-kinky-dating-with-sir-drgn-sassy/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/poly-kinky-dating-with-sir-drgn-sassy/#respond Fri, 22 Jan 2021 13:00:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=1103
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00:25 – Intros
01:32 – How did you two meet?
01:36 – What’s a “munch”?
02:30 – First Playdate & Safety Protocol
04:31 – A Little Bit About DS Contracts
06:25 – From DS Play To Romance
08:13 – When did you discuss “poly”?
10:28 – Out As Poly with Mom & Dad
11:25 – Hiding being poly, pros and cons
12:58 – Poly? –it’s just a phase
14:07 – Poly leading to deeper same-sex connections
14:42 – Why other relationships are encouraged…
15:11 – Losing yourself in a relationship by sacrificing yourself

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How to step off The Relationship Escalator https://kinkypolyatheist.com/how-to-step-off-the-relationship-escalator/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/how-to-step-off-the-relationship-escalator/#respond Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:33:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=1090
This staircase/escalator is basically all the steps a relationship is supposed to become. It’s a lot of expectations that I’m going to show you how to completely opt out of.

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Imagine a relationship between you and your crush as a staircase. On the first step, you two are hanging out more. On the next step, you actually touch each other a little bit. The next step, you’re kissing, then the next step, you’re dating often, then staying the night at each other’s houses, then introducing each other to family and friends, then moving in together, buying furnicher together, getting married, having kids, buying a house together, planning a retirement, and so on.

This staircase is basically all the steps a relationship is supposed to become. If you’re on one step, then you’re basically expected to be working on moving toward the next step and altimately trying to get to the top. Which is this ideal of a happy married couple. Now instead of a staircase, imagine it’s an escalator. You get on the bottom and you’re in a relationship that is expected to automatically keep escalating and carring you to the top.

This is the relationships escalator. I first heard about this concept in the polyamorous book More Than Two and I love this analogy. I’ll leave a link to the book in the description.

I love this analogy because it describes the unspoken pressure to always push a relationship to be that next thing. It so clearly captures that idea that somehow we should all be looking to be at the top of the escalator because that’s what a successful couple looks like. Happiness and love are at the top of the escalator and so many of us have bought into the story that we need to race to that top of this thing to be happy and successful at love.

I used to believe this because this is what society and tv and movies all sold to me my whole life. I thought the goal of life was to find someone, get marries, settle down, and be happy. I believed this tale so strongly that I felt like being single was somehow a failure and something to feel shameful about. TV and movies made it seem pretty clear that without a happily ever after significant other, I was a loser.

Thank goodness I finally discovered the opposite is true. Step one, you can choose to be happy everyday regardless of who you are dating or how serious your relationship is. Step two, you can turn the escalator off and only climb the steps you want to. In fact, you can stay on any step as long as you want with any person and you can climb as many different staircases as you want or create as many staircases as you want. And life is amazing with this approach.

Here’s an example. I have a friend that I have a crush on that I sometimes cuddle with. I do mean cuddle. No sex. No groping. No kissing. And it’s wonderful. We enjoy being on this step of the staircase and there’s no pressure to escalate the relationship. I have a different friend who I also have a crush on and we go on dates and occasionally we get frisky, but it’s never a requirement and never expected. I also have a friend that I have a crush on who is monogamous. We are strictly friends, that’s the step that we are on. But my heart does flutter sometimes when I’m around her and that’s a pretty wonderful feeling. Finally, I have a crush that I used to get frisky with, but it was leading to a jealous situations with a third party, so we agreed to not be physical anymore. I value this friendship and I’m glad were able take a step down on the staircase and find the perfect spot for us.

Each of these relationships are successful. I have a wonderful cuddle buddy. I have a wonderful crush I’ll never pursue. I have a wonderful friend that I’m no longer physical with.
With all of these people, I’m savoring the step the individual relationships is on.

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Metamours: My Partner’s Partners https://kinkypolyatheist.com/metamours-my-partners-partners/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/metamours-my-partners-partners/#respond Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:08:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=1063
What are Metamours? What it’s like to be a Metamour. What it’s like to have a Metamour. What it’s like to have two partners who are each other’s Metamour.

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What are Metamours? How to get along with them. Logistics behind having a Meta. How the relationships can unfold.

Meta + Amour. Meta meaning: with or about or something bigger than. Amour meaning love.
Your partner’s other partner is your metamour (or meta). If you have two partners, they are each others Metamour.
There’s two major things to talk about: the logistics behind having a metamour and the relationship between the metamours.
Logistics are things like when to go on dates and how to interact when all at the same party. Where and when does sex happen?
Relationship with metamours; they could simply not know each other, or be indifferent, or just okay with eachother. Sometimes they like having out. Sometimes there’s jealousy between them. Sometimes they just don’t like each other. Maybe someone is triggered or getting red flags.
Logistics
Both partners want to go out on Friday… what do you do?
You’re living with partner A and partner B is coming over… what do you do?
Is it okay to have sex with partner B in your own house?
Time is usually the biggest point of contention.
If the three of you all end up at the same party, how do you act?
Interactions between Metas
Metas who are introverted? Metas who are standoffish? One on one chats with your meta. Respect and grace. Meta’s can get along and it can be amazing. Ask about how your meta is doing. Checkins with your meta or about your meta. Jealousy with Metas. What if your meta doesn’t like you?
Don’t put the partner that links the metas in the middle of disagreements.

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Kinky People! Poly People! Stop Hiding! https://kinkypolyatheist.com/kinky-people-poly-people-stop-hiding/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/kinky-people-poly-people-stop-hiding/#respond Fri, 04 Dec 2020 13:21:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=1032
Why poly people hide and what it look like when we hide. By end of video: know why we shouldn’t hide and how to handle people who push you to hide.

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This video: Why poly people hide, what it look like when we hide.

By end of video: know why we shouldn’t hide and how to handle people who push you to hide
What it looks like when we hide?

I was on the way into a party with a sexy friend and she stop and ask me, “can I kiss you at this party?” This was her checking in because so many poly relationships have so many rules and egos to navigate. I told her, “I will never hide out relationship. Yes, you can kiss me. You are not a secret.”

If you are poly, you are poly. It doesn’t matter if you have multiple partners, 1 partner, or no partners. If you are poly and single, don’t start dating someone who’s not poly. It’s only going to end in tears.

They are going to ask you to be monogamous and hide your poly side in front of their friends and family. Why? So all those people can be comfortable. They are implying your poly-ness is “bad” or “wrong.” Anyone who asks you to hide your poly side or your poly relationships is also exercising control over you. Don’t go there.

Healthy relationships are not about telling the other person to hide or change. Don’t date monogamous people. Don’t try to change monogamous people and don’t let monogamous people impose their shame onto you.

If some monogamous persons starts hanging around with you with the intention of dating you, you have a responsibility to them and to yourself, to tell them you are poly and you will never date anyone exclusively. If they agree to date you anyways, they also need to agree that you will never hide.

don’t let people try to bend you or pin you down in a mono relationship, especially for THEIR COMFORT. they are either mono or poly.

As soon as you stop hiding, you will find people can nolonger use your poly status against you. They can’t shame you about it because it’s not a secret.

Don’t keep friends you have to hide from. As soon as you let them go, you will have a lot more time for better friends, real friends. Friends who accept and love you for who you are. The sooner you find these friends, the sooner you will have a life-long support system of people who genuinely love you without shame or B.S. conditions. The less you hide the happier your life will become.

The less our community hides, the less pressure our community will get to hide. The day I stopped hiding was the day people could no longer shame or judge me into compliance. Your love is beautiful. Don’t hide it.

So how do you do that?

Start with these simple phrase

I’m dating but I’m not exclusive. OR We’re dating but we’re not exclusive.

Then NEVER STOP STAYING THAT!

Also, did you know, healthy boundaries means you don’t have to automatically answer other people’s questions? When someone ask you a question about poly or sex, or whatever, you can simply say “I’m not talking about that with you” if they persist, just say “I’m not talking about that with you and I don’t have to give a reason. If you’re going to push the issue, I’m going to have to ask you to leave.” OR if you want to you can say: “What makes you think that was an appropriate question to ask?”

If you find yourself interacting with a bully, leave or call out their bully tactics. Don’t call them a “bully”, call out the bully tactics they are attempting to manipulate you with. Like shame, guilt, judgement, exaggeration, or minimization

It sounds like you are shaming/guilting/judging me. That is a bully tactic. I’m calling it out. I will not be bullied. Keep your manipulation and your opinions to yourself.

While we’re here, talking over you, cutting you off, attacking everything you say, or acting like they are a victim are all bully tactics. Feel free to call people out for any of those too.

For the most part, “we’re dating and we’re not exclusive.” Should be more than enough for most people.

Sometimes a title or a label will be used in an attempt to get you to deny your poly-ness. If anyone ever tries to give you a title like boyfriend or girlfriend, don’t agree to it unless you specifically tell them you will be saying “this is my boyfriend/girlfriend and we’re not exclusive.”

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Call Out Bullies & Bully Tactics https://kinkypolyatheist.com/call-out-bullies-bully-tactics/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/call-out-bullies-bully-tactics/#respond Wed, 02 Dec 2020 13:06:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=1021
As a Kinky, Poly, or Atheist person, you will be targeted by bullies. This video talks about how to respond to and call out bully behaviors.

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Call Out Bullies

1. Breathe to stay calm
2. call out the bully tactics
3. No Name Calling
Bully Tactic: Silencing You
Bully Tactic: Attack & Belittle
Response 1: Walk Away; Don’t Spend Any Time or Energy
Response 2: Stay Calm & Call Out The Bully Tactic
Set Your Rules of Engagement: Respect Me or No Conversation.
Fast Pulse = Fight Or Flight
Fast Pulse = Emotions Driving
Don’t Get Emotinal.
How? Breathe.
The “Emotional Arena” is where They Fight Best.
Bully Tactic: Attack & Belittle
Bully Tactic: Exaggerate Their Side
Bully Tactic: Push People To “Pick Sides”
Bully Tactic: Exaggerate Their Emotions & Minimize Yours
Bully Tactic: Victim & Blame
Bully Tactic: Changing The Subject (because they are “losing”)
Bully Tactic: Social Pressure/Embarrassment
Where To Draw The Line by Anne Katherine: https://amzn.to/3nLHquW

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Poly + the 5 Love Languages (Gary Chapman) will change your life and your relationships. https://kinkypolyatheist.com/poly-the-5-love-languages-gary-chapman-will-change-your-life-and-your-relationships/ https://kinkypolyatheist.com/poly-the-5-love-languages-gary-chapman-will-change-your-life-and-your-relationships/#respond Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:03:00 +0000 https://kinkypolyatheist.com/?p=977
Poly & the 5 Love Languages Touch, Words of Affirmation, Quality Time, Acts of Service, and Gifts. These are the 5 love languages and they will change your life and your relationships. In this video, I’m going to tell you exactly what they mean, why they are important, and how to identify your love language and the love languages of others.

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First of all, what are the 5 love languages and why do they matter?

The languages, no particular order, are: Touch, Words of Affirmation, Quality Time, Acts of Service, and Gifts.

They come from the book written by Gary Chapman… link in the description

English vs Chinese example. Yelling I love you.

Describe each
Touch,
Words of Affirmation,
Quality Time,
Acts of Service,
Gifts.

Your language will quickly fill you up when you are down. Like filling a cup with warm coco.
Your language will also quickly drain you when used in a toxic way. Like tipping the cup over and losing all the coco.

Example of ex who thought her language was Acts of Service but turned out to be Quality Time.

We connected on Quality Time and Acts of Service (our family’s main language)
They are simply ways to give or show appreciation. You can use them with everyone in your life, friends, family, coworkers, even your boss. They just look a little different.

Example with boss…. I thought Acts of Service, turns out it was Gifts. Keychain. Doughnuts.
Quiz, link in desc.

My life totally changed the day I dated a woman whose language was also Touch. I had never felt so love and I had never felt like my love was so cherished my another. She would greet me with hugs at the door. She sat on my lap and kiss me all over. She’d touch me as she passed by. She’d playfully squeeze my butt and she loved it when I squeezed hers. You living room was a permanent cuddle space and we would often cuddle for most of the day. It was heavenly to me.

My life totally changed again the day I ran into a kinky woman whose love language was also the same as my own, Touch. But I’ll save that for next time.
So what’s your love language? Did you take the quiz? Look in the description for the link and then drop your love language in the comments with 3 ways people can fill your cup.

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